There are several things that bother me about Bobby Jindal that a lot of people don't know other than the fact that they should.

1. He (along with David Vitter) voted against extending the tax deadline for Katrina and Rita victims and succeeded in doing so.

2. He voted to shutdown charity hospital, but got thwarted. Vitter has voted the same way as well.

3. He and Vitter voted against giving Southeast Louisiana offshore oil royalties.

And these two men are conservative Republicans. Apparently they're not interested in economic development (or social liberty) for Louisiana. The Dems of Louisiana aren't any better (seeing that they're trying to stop any economic development that might help the black community).

It seems we must first ‘get real,’ fellow libertarians..It seems it must be acknowledged FREQUENTLY AND LOUDLY that modern “politics”/elections are a stinking fraud..

Firstly, let’s define the term “politics.” It seems it can amount to no more or less than “a competition of ideas about government.” When you boil it down, “politics” amounts to CLARK’S ideas about how “the best government” ‘ought to be’ vs. how YOU think ‘it’ 'should be' vs. how Rush Blowhard thinks it should be vs. how Dubya Bush, Algore, Tim Osama Osman, etc. 6 billion others think "the best" or 'most just' or "perfect" etc. "government" 'ought to be'..

But although “politics” is truly merely “a COMPETITION of ideas about government” if one compares it honestly to other “competitions” a fraud is revealed that I believe even the thickest Republicrat is forced to admit:

For example, in this country we have elaborate MERIT-BASED systems in place in order to decide “the championships” of mere sports competitions. Btw, I like sports but doesn’t it seem a little out of whack to you when hours upon hours of live tv, radio, media reportage, etc. are devoted to decide who the ball champions are when the competitions/races for government office to decide who, in effect, has the power of life and death over us etc. are given such short shrift?!?!.

Think about it! It seems to me in honest competitions the participants, players, teams, etc. go at it head-to-head in numerous hard fought contests before a champion is crowned..

But in political ‘competitions’ we are all witness to the fraud:…phony, puny debates where the stinking Republicrat participants (My apologies to Ron Paul and maybe Mike Gravel alone and ever amongst these Republicrat stinkers!) are told the softball questions they will be asked beforehand!!

…In FACT, in political competitions it isn’t so much the ACTUAL PARTICIPANTS who go head-to-head in honest debate. It’s the stinking Republicrat surrogates:..the announcers, the “color men”…”the cheerleaders” if you will..

And so it is revealed…the competition of ideas about government aka “politics” is OBVIOUSLY a stinking fraud..the question is why so many Republicrat munchkins continue to support, in any way, this abominable fraud?..AND WHY DOESN’T ANYONE EVER PUBLICLY, FREQUENTLY, ANGRILY, etc. ACKNOWLEDGE THIS STINKING RUSE?? IT SEEMS THIS IS THE BEST AND ONLY PLACE TO START!!

(Ok now you Republicrats can go back to handicapping your stinking ruse amongst Hillbilly, Rudy Jew, Black O’blahblah, Nitwit Mitt and the rest of your absolute phonies!..again my apologies to Mr. Paul and maybe Gravel alone and ever amongst ‘the media’s contenders’….)

More and more I am finding Dr. Paul to be a selective Libertarian. I find his hard-line pro-life position to be based on authoratarianism, not liberty. I do not consider someone that would overturn Roe v. Wade to be libertarian. I feel the Republican party is his best match.

Under his plan we would start issuing Fertilization Certificates instead of birth certificates.

What if; there were no war between the states and the states rights of self-government ruled today in the real world? For example, how would Ohio defend itself from illegal alliens that enter through Texas, assuming that Texas decided to open its borders to everyone. Will this not become a major threat of free travel to those of us who enjoy going from state-to-state freely. Will each state begin issuing out pass-ports? And what about our planes, trains, big trucks who transport goods to each state each day, will they need state-by-state passports to deliver the goods? This is just one example of thousands that could exist if just one state decided to make changes that effects all others.
Like our friends in Europe, each state(country), has the right to self-government, to pass tariffs, taxes, etc.
So, by using this very simple example, tell me how we Americans would be living today if our states had the ultimate power of self-rule.
I really want to believe in true Libertarian goals, but is it possible to survive the threats of todays real-world? Are we to practice global isolationism when it comes to foreign affairs, ifso, will all 50 states(who has grave responcibility to its citizens) follow one path? Think about it, thoses states who have international ports and borders would set foreign affairs policy and procedures.
And all other states would be forced to follow along.
Please tell me that the LP has a answer to my very basic and simple thoughts of border states and foreign affairs. And please, tell me how free-trade in our heart land(those states without international ports and borders) could survive in the global market if access is denied.
Power, (no matter who has the power, states or central gov.) is intoxicating and often abused by man.
I think when the Articles of Confederation, the Declaration of Independence and the U S Constitution were written, the states (Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, New Hampshie, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania) had international borders and or ports.
So, I believe that in modern times we must have a strong central gov. to govern foreign affairs and the free-market.
Its a fact, times have changed, and the LP should make public their point of view on foreign affairs and free-trade.

The LP National Platform: (IV. Foreign Affairs
American foreign policy should seek an America at peace with the world and the defense -- against attack from abroad -- of the lives, liberty, and property of the American people on American soil. Provision of such defense must respect the individual rights of people everywhere.)

(The principle of non-intervention should guide relationships between governments. The United States government should return to the historic libertarian tradition of avoiding entangling alliances, abstaining totally from foreign quarrels and imperialist adventures, and recognizing the right to unrestricted trade, travel, and immigration.)
These are very nice words but as all others are subject to interpretation. Please tell me that the LP can take on any domestic and foreign issue
by giving a clear,concise step-by-step solution.

Tell me how the LP will operate if it had control of local,state and federal governments. And how the LP will make my life wonderful by putting more dollars in my pocket and protecting my family from criminals and foreign fighters.

Thank you for letting me to write in asking questions.

Coach Jim,

I also disagree with Ron Paul's stance on abortion, but if Row vs Wade is over turned, it will just go back to the individual states to decide what is "right" with in their borders, and hopefully their own state courts should find the same results as Row vs Wade.

I also disagree as well on Ron Paul Pro-Life. But I have temporary changed to Repulipuk to vote for him to have the overall rest change. DREAMING. I would like to see Libertarians in Congress and Senate. If we end up with an Obama or Hillary as President. One only knows what is going to happen in this horrible socialistic country.

I've always disagreed with the LP on one issue...Abortion. As a libertarian and agnostic I find that killing people is generally a bad idea.

There should be no place in the Libertarian Party for anybody who supports more concentration of power in the federal government and a meddlesome foreign policy.

i guess soulsanchor brings up some interesting quiestions. one question stands out to me as one i can understand. "And how will the LP make my life wonderful by putting more dollars in my pocket and protecting my family from criminals and foreign fighters?" no as far as foreign fighters i don't think that the LP wants to end this nation's defenses. in fact by nonintervention, we would have more troops readily at hand to defend our country. as far as criminals, if law enforcement isn't focused on attacking perpetrators of victimless crimes, then law enforcement becomes easier. as for putting dollars into my pocket, that is not the goal at all. nor is making my life wonderful. i don't want any party to put dollars in my pocket or make my life wonderful. only i can do that. and letting me do that is the goal of LP.

If Ron Paul gets elected and we still have a democrat congress I dont think roe vs. wade will be overturned.

J.T., I really do see your point, but there is still a raging debate whether abortion kills people. I mean, we issue birth certificates, not fertilization certificates. The issue of whether an embryo is an independent life boils down to a religious position. And I thought we didn't want government making policy based on a particular religion.

This is kind of long, but read this and see why scientists do not view "pre-birth growths" as seperate babies.
http://www.2think.org/abortion.shtml

Republicrat graveyard-whistlers certainly abound!

SOULSANCHOR QUERIED: “Will this not become a major threat of free travel to those of us who enjoy going from state-to-state freely.” (END)

..Certainly of some concern..BUT we are all witness to a STINKING ELECTION/CAMPAIGN FRAUD from which ‘the deciders’ are ‘selected’ to ‘solve’ (maybe) SOUL'S and MANY OTHER REAL AND IMAGINED ‘concerns’..WHEN MILLIONS OF OUR FELLOWS HAVE SELECTED, AFFIRMED, etc. IN THESE PHONY ELECTIONS A BUNCH OF 50 'DOLLAR' HAIRCUTS ON 5 "DOLLAR" HEADS IT IS SMALL WONDER OUR "GOVERNMENT" STINKS!..AND WILL CONTINUE TO STINK!!

Remember folks, PRIORITIES!!

It would seem first and foremost is recognizing ‘government’ consists of real people and, as with any organization, ‘GOVERNMENT’ is only as ‘good’ or ‘bad’ as the people who make it up..

..Republicrats, AGAIN!..please note there is CERTAINLY no honest attempt to find the best ideas/thinkers with your stinking, phony ‘competitions of ideas about government’ (politics/political elections)

..Therefore, SOULSANCHOR'S legitimate concerns and countless others WILL BE DECIDED NOW AND IN THE FUTURE (if people let them continue) by some of the most deluded phonies, puppet-heads, pecksniffs, plunger$, etc. assorted creeps, under the sun!..

PRIORITIES!!

Btw, Ron Paul is a government-licensed ‘doctor’..and a politician..he may not be as smart or evolved as you or me..but he’s heads and tails better than what I’ve seen these stinking Republicrats cough-up in my lifetime!..send him a few bucks, you tightwad$!..and $upport your favorite LP candidate(s) too!.. ;o)

you or 'I'..english preachers cluck at poor CLARK.. ;o)

To Mr. Liberty:

I found the article, however long, interesting. It certainly made me think. I'm not sure it changed my mind though.

I still think Adoption can be a useful tool so teens, rape victims, and women who want careers can still be free to persue happiness without complication. There is alot of ethical and moral blurs in this issue. And I also really hope masturbation is not murder or else I'm in trouble. Ha.

I think that Dr. Ron Paul has the best approach for dealing with abortion. In interviews, Dr. Paul has stated that the federal government should never be responsible for regulating abortion, and he wants to eliminate the federal role in dealing with abortion, allowing states to either protect abortion-rights or restrict them. Considering the fact that America is almost evenly divided on the abortion issue, allowing states latitude here is probably the only way to secure long term abortion-rights in any part of the country.

Dr. Paul has stated that as an obstetrician it seems strange that he can legally be paid to perform an abortion one minute, but then one minute later if he kills a baby he's a murderer. I personally don't have any sense of certainty as to when life begins, although I believe that early abortions should always be legal.

If Ron Paul were nominated for president by the Republican party, I think that for the LP to even consider nominating anyone else would be extremely foolish. I once remember a debate involving a Libertarian, a Constitutional Party candidate, and the major party candidates where the Libertarian and Constitutional Party candidate just agreed with each other on every question. Those Libertarian and Constitutional Party idiots wanted the same things, but instead of consolidating their efforts they split a minuscule portion of the votes. If the paleoconservatives and classical liberals can't find some common ground to develop significant popular support, we're all doomed to be lead by the same old 2-party bureaucracy forever. We need Dr. Ron Paul in the Republican party, and we all need to support him or there won't be any real progress made in the 2008 election.

A CALL TO ALL LIBERTARIANS, OBJECTIVISTS, OR JUST PLAIN FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS!

Vote for Ron Paul, not because he's a perfect libertarian, but because he is one! If we constanly argue about perfection in political/philisophical positions we will all find the same thing... each and every one of us disagree on something. Do we then only vote for someone who matches up with every last tiny centemeter of ideologue. Have you forgotten that The Good Doctor ran on the LP ticket in '88,

I implore you, the grandsons of liberty, to not let this great experiment of Freedom, Justice, and Equality die because of quibbles over border security! Has the LP been able to do half of what RP has done in his career for this country? Who really has the best chance of restoring the constitution?

Please, I beg, do not let this chance pass you by. When in the last 50 years have we had such a chance? So swallow your pride on a couple issues and walk into that voting booth and vote, not libertarian, but American.

J.T.

Once again, thank you for letting me to write in. Concerning Ron Paul, if he does not receive the GOP nomination for president on Sept 1-4, 2008 in St. Paul, Minnesota, will the LP have the foresight to plan to hold open a place for Dr. Paul (May 22-24,2008) during the convention.
I am not privy to the polices and laws concerning these things, but wouldn't it be most favorable for the LP to run a candidate who has national name recognition, one who has lived as a strong libitarian for some 70 years, a person who does not flinch when questioned about any number of issues. For Dr. Paul will stand there, look you in the eyes, and tell you exactly how it should be, having a libertarian point of view. And after his answers sink into the thick heads of the media, and others, to include common citizens seeking(begging) for positive political leadership, then it seems that men and women all over this country will follow Dr. Paul and vote for him.
Lou Dobbs, a strong Independent, has placed a challenged to all citizens to find a candidate who is for people, not big business. For us to find someone who is for the people, not pandering to the people, not giving the people social programs where citizens hold out their hand and receive entitlements.
I know the LP is a political party, and not a non-profit org. who supports candidates from other parties. But could the LP hold open a place for Ron Paul next May? Perhaps if LP's presidential candidate named in May '08 could wait and annouce his/her running mate after Sept 4, '08 this could leave room for Dr. Paul on the LP ticket. Just food for thought.
I have supported and voted for Libertarian candidates, and it sure would be logical and most pleasing to see a LP ticket with national recognition and a background in national politics.
Again, thank you for letting me post my thoughts.

..As I recently said to one stoooooooooooopid, single-minded, Republican abortion prohibitionist and thorough douche-bag: 'How about YOU deciding what goes on in YOUR womb and allowing others the same choices!'..MYOFB!!

LOL! Methinks the politics of abortion prohibition will eventually work to destroy the stinking Republican party so I guess some good may come after all!..

Btw, you can work your Doritos chutes forever about 'politics/government'..but when you and/or your fellow citizens have affirmed a bunch of Republicrat fools and phonies who don't understand the origin, nature, etc. of even one 'dollar' whilst they make decisions about illion$ of 'dollars,' well..ooga booga, Republicrats, ooga freaking booga!.. ;o)

Congratulations Libertarian Party. As a loyal Republican I have to say that I am very impressed with your election results for '07.

17% of your candidates who ran, won. And it appears you picked up some new seats.

I think there's a sign here for you all. The State Legislature, Congressional thing has not worked for the LP. But the non-partisan local races seems to be going quite well.

Perhaps the LP should devote more resources to that strategy?

BTW, I reported on your good fortunes over at www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com

Eric Dondero, Founder
Republican Liberty Caucus

Fmr. Senior Aide, US Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)

Fmr. Libertarian Party National Comm. Member

Tolerance;Live and let live is the way of the LP. Don't push others around. These LP publish statements sound great and is what many of us want. How can it be played out in day-to-day living?
Are we to move to New Hampshire as the Free State Project purposes, or do we standfast and build our communities to change the mindset of our fellow citizens from years of mind control conditioning from the two major players in U S modern politics.
I was raised to appreciate a job that had good pay and benefits. To perform a good days work for a good days pay. To believe in the union and in the company. But how times have changed!
Today, as a high school grad, it is very difficult to obtain a job with good pay and benefits. College grads are now finding it difficult to find security in the workforce also.

The so-called safety net of having a good job with benefits so a worker could plan for the families future, (to provide a home,health care, college money, etc,), without having government assistance has come and gone. It seems that goverment continues to condition the mindset of its citizens by creating a "planned failure" in that a citizen can not work for a fair wage/benefits plan and must accept what is available and count on government entitlements to fill the void. Both major parties are responcible for this way of life, for what would happen to them if the citizens were liberated by making do without government hand-outs.Oh my!

I have made mention of "union" and many of you may be upset by the mention of it, but in my early days of working for the company, the union was a good thing. Today, the union for labor has grown into a very large labor government that pushes people in and out of employment through powerful lobbiest and contractual power. Many companies have folded do to the greed of the union, but in the early years the union came up with the concept of good pay for a good days work. Its nearly impossible to fire a lazy inept employee these days, years ago, both management and union who happily get rid of one who would not comply to the workforce standards.
On the other hand, we have many foreign workers, (legal and illegal migrants), who are more than willing to work in harsh conditions for low wages without any health or retirement benefits. Just recently, while California was burning, many migrant workers continued to work in the fields to harvest the crops in fear that they would be fired if they left for safety. This is why unions were created in the early 1900's. Protection for workers from unsafe working conditions at first, then contractular wages and benefits became negotiable.

"Live and let live" is a wonderful idea, but how do we achieve this standard. It seems that if we live by a "contractual relationship" in regards to employment(for an example), by not having the gov set minimum wages, we tread in the waters of the courts to enforce the agreement that management and employee signed. Thinking as a libertarian, I would want my self-governing state court to rule on the matter. And knowing what I know about management through life's experiences, the state courts will have a back log of thousands of cases waiting to be adjudicated. So, the employee will wait and be cheated out of wages and benefits that were contracted.
So please, tell me how in the "world of management and labor", how do live and let live when it comes down to fair wages for a good days work? Do we place our trust in Enron and other such companies that still exist today,eg, Countrywide? Where deals were made for quick profits(very large profits), and now expects gov bailout and forced Wall St. to lose confidence and millions of dollars. Are we to expect state courts to work this mess out which will cost state tax-payers millions of dollars to adjudicate. Or do we let the federal gov adjudicate and seek criminal indicments? After all, Countrywide made mortgage deals in all 50 states.
To wrap-it up,the LP platform is very patriotic but I wish to know where the meat-and-potatoes are in regards to management/labor contractual relationships. For I understand that the LP is for contractual relationships of labor and against gov forced minimum wages and healthcare.
If management will not provide a living wage or discounted healthcare premium, how are we American workers to provide for our families? Please don't tell me that the free-market will work itself out in these matters, for we have in our midst corporate greed and foreign workers to contend with.

You know what outsiders call us, the Losertarian party. What is the LP marketing/PR department (what? there isn't one?) doing to correct that?

response to: neilwetmore" as for putting dollars into my pocket, that is not the goal at all. nor is making my life wonderful. i don't want any party to put dollars in my pocket or make my life wonderful. only i can do that. and letting me do that is the goal of LP."

Neil; I did not mean for any political party to actually put dollars in my pocket, nor to directly make my life wonderful.
My goal was for the LP to explain to me how,( if it were the ruling party), their polices would effect me and other citizens by letting us keep our taxes thus having more money in our pockets making for a much more wonderful life for ourselves and families.
I apologize for not making that clear, my ideas were supported by the content of the body of my writings. And I still wait for an answer.

Of course, if a informed libertarian were reading this blog, all is whats needed to say was that the LP will fight for lower taxes, less gov spending, less intrusive gov, and soforth.... of course, the idea of poor states vs. wealthy states in the proposed strong self-governing states as opposed to a weak central gov is of grave concern to all. Especially in matters of defense, interstate commerce, interstate judicial review, international commerce, etc.
Keep It Real, no pie in the sky recommendations.

James R.:

Don't feel bad, my sister calls me a Liberstupian.
Catchy I know.
People just aren't ready to accept us as a viable option. But that will change with time.

I've been an LP member for 27 years. The lack of marketing ability (especially by those at the helm today) is getting tiresome.

Just put me in charge.

First thing I'd do is have a huge fundraising day, make $4.3 million, or more (There are a lot of Libertarians), and get some media attention.

Then I'd get a celebrity who happens to be a libertarian (Howard Stern, Drew Carrey etc.) and run them for governor of a libertarianized state.

It's a good plan.

The neocon sewer rat, Michael Medved, refers to the LP as the Losertarian Party. he also referes to the Constitution Party as the Constipation Party. Clearly, the only thing that Medved has proven is that his parents should have used birth control.

...ooooops, lotsa yacking about 'dollars' ('job$') and 'the economy,' etc. here!..

..I relish politely asking Republicrat loudmouth know-little$--face-to-face--and in front of other people--to explain how money is issued/created, etc..

..especially the Republicrat loudmouths who fancy themselves somewhat knowledgeable as to 'the economy'..

..it's fun to watch the Republicrat stooooooops squirm..

..those of you seeking some honest insight may want to google 'fractional reserve lending fraud' or 'fraudulent money creation process,' etc...

..I trust those of you Republicrats and etcetercrats galore who undertake serious inquiry here will finally STFU about 'the free market,' 'the economy,' 'the GDP,' 'jobs,' etc. ad nau$eam!..

Btw, as a libertarian who swore to renounce 'the initiation of force and/or fraud' etc., I find it ABSOLUTELY AMAZING that so many of my fellows are WORSE THAN IGNORANT of our stinking money system--which is based SOLELY on FORCE AND/OR FRAUD!..

..btw I understand how crazy the preceding assertion sounds to you monetary ignoramusses..as I was one too!..

Btw, the ignoramusses currently hand-wringing about 'the US dollar' fail to explain that ALL MAJOR WORLD 'CURRENCIES' ARE A STINKING FRAUD!..and have been since loooooooooong before any of us were a twinkle in our mommy and daddy's eyes!

But do continue blathering about 'the economy,' etc., Republicrats..it's a hoot for CLARK!!

Btw, as to ?Medved and the rest of the stinking Republican radio cheerleaders..they could all be replaced with a stinking parrot trained to squawk, "Democrat bad, Republican good!"

(at least the scumbags are half-right!) ;o)

Clark -

I agree. We need to abolish the Federal Reserve System. The people in charge of the Fed are responsible for the devaluation of the dollar to the point where the value of the dollar is currently at $0.04 compared to what the value of the dollar was in 1913. This system needs to be abolished, and all the people who have worked for it and currently work for it should be imprisoned for counterfeiting the currency. Our dollar should be backed by silver and gold.

One more thing. Michael Medved and the other neocon commentators continue to prove that their parents should have used birth control.

Stan; gold or silver... how 'bout clean water, whats a case of clean water cost now? Or, how 'bout clean air... clean air should be worth alot.

I wouldn't be surprised that in the near future clean water and air will be owned by the fed and taxed for its use. Nobody ever thought that water would be poured into plastic bottles and sold. What do we do with all these plastic bottles in the dump by the way?
We may be in the grocery store someday to refill our air bottles and buy another case of water. I guess, that a entrepreneurial libertarian would say that's their right to trade clean water and air for profits sake. I say, stop the pollution now and conserve natural resources and energy.

So, would it be constitutional for the fed to make and enforce laws to preserve clean water and air. The states are not doing anything about it. Did the framers of the constitution ever think that our own businessmen would create an environmental nightmare. On the other side; if consumers were more responcible in conservation and not buy plastic bottles of water, that business would fold. Which would cause businesses to become more so-called green friendly.
Everyone can help in conservation, even if it means to take your own reuseable cloth bag into the grocery to pack and carry ones groceries instead of using plastic bags.

So, in keeping with the Election Day Thoughts posting, make Green a issue.
Just food for foreward thinkers..... Thanks

To Mr. "Green":

First off you're what I like to call a Watermelon, green on the outside, but red to the core.

It would be Physiclly impossible for someone to own the air we breath. It is possible to bottle air up and sell it, but not the whole atmosphere. That doesn't mean the Government won't tax us for breathing mind you.

You also cant own all the rain, vapor, oceans and streams in the world. it is impossible. Taxing is still a podssiblity however.

So please, stick to the whole "proliteriat" thing and stop pretending to care about the environment. I care about stopping pollution as much as the next guy, but there iis a limit to government force. READ THE CONSTITUTION!

J.T. either you can not understand what I wrote, or you are just stuck on yourself of being an ass. (note* clean air clean water)
Watermelon ! ? What are you saying: green on the outside, red to the core?
Your thoughts are like many of those who call themselves todays libertarians, a dumb bunch of kids who know very little 'bout real life concerns to families, rebellion without knowledge and leadership, calling out for change without getting up off the couch.

J T; I have read the constitution many times, and the courts decisions that effect it. You could not even give a specific reference in the constitution to use.

I have just stopped in to see what the LP has going on and to chat with someone who could explain what the LP is for. I've wasted my time. Nothing here but hate, mean spirited idiots.

I being a vet, give best wishes to all the vets out there. I doubt if there are any, it sounds like from the postings that the LP is full of dogers of patriot responsibility. Mama's boys.

STAN WROTE: "Our dollar should be backed by silver and gold."

Some good points, Stan..But many people mistakenly believe that 'the US' once had an honest (%100 reserve) gold/silver money system..I believe this is a myth as 'the banksters' have been working their 'fractional reserve' fraud for centuries now..

So remember, any honest 'gold/silver money system' would be COMPLETELY NEW to the world..I don't think it would work well because there isn't enough gold/silver to make it work..and it would OBVIOUSLY set off a gold/silver mining abomination that would devastate "the environment"..(those of you who disagree please do some $imple math and learn about the realities of gold/silver mining/extraction)

I believe a 'gold/silver money system' would be and has been strongly supported by people with lots of gold/silver..(similarly, JAMES R., etcetercrats, might favor a money system based somehow on hot air..as he appears in abundant possession here!).. ;o)

SOULSANCHOR..as to 'pollution' methinks an honest court system would help here!..'pollution' is a form of criminal 'trespass' but as long as we have a STINKING ROTTEN Republicrat court system dominated by stinking, polluting, monied 'corporation$' ('artificial person$') and ignorant, brainwashed government-licensed lawyers and judges..well, get used to filth, fraud, criminality, etc.!..

Clark; Thanks,, a honest court system without bias of political pressure, is sure hard to find.

Maybe we citizens should call an "emermgecy" and lock up all the lawyers like Pakistan is doing.( just for a coulpe of weeks)LOL

I agree with many that the two major party's are corrupt and corporate owned.

Also, on the matter of currency. Yes, mining for gold,silver,diamonds kills mother earth and human beings. Blood diamonds begets slavery, gold/silver mining begets wage slaves in horrible working conditions in 3rd world countries,(Africa), and here in the USA by the use of foreign workers.
Since we do not back the dollar with gold these days, the Fed needs to give back what they have stolen from the citizens. Has anyone recently inventoried our gold at Fort Knox, Ky. ? I wonder if there are any gold bars still there. Or maybe "Goldfinger" got it all.LOL

Another issue of concern; my county commissioners
had just voted to give State Troopers $30,000.00
to buy radar guns for their cars,(3 units).
This violates our Georgia State constitution, county by-laws, and good government policy. And not a word of this crime has been mentioned by Georgia LP.

If the LP can not fight a local fight, how can it fight nationally? My next e-mail is to our county and state Lp org.

As a Georgia citizen, it could be up to you to press charges.

soulsanchor,

I apologize for my comment. I did not mean to insult or offend. I had a very bad day on saturday and I sincerely am sorry.

I have the upmost respect for all veterans, many in my family are ones. I mistook you're comment for someone posting to attack the LP with environmental propoganda. It happens.

But I see now you were just searching and asking questions. I really feel stupid looking back at the comments.

I would recommend courts to decide on such issues.

I would ask you to forgive me and overlook, the LP is a great place and is not at all formed of immature kids sitting on the couch. Well, they're not immature anyway. LOL

I am sincerely sorry though.

J.T

Ouch! Clark is full of puerile, ad hominem attacks. See you in Denver?

J T: Thank You.

Coach Jim: Yes, I would enjoy to defend our rights in court, however, I do not have the funds to do so. I have been looking into starting up a non-profit org to do fundraising and to use as a tool to combat gov tyranny. Perhaps my own election campaign.

I never thought that county commissioners would ever vote to give money to a state agency.

Best Wishes to The LP

http://www.lastfreevoice.com/2007/11/13/lp-radicals-antiwar-resolution/

Your thoughts?

Clark wrote: "But many people mistakenly believe that 'the US' once had an honest (%100 reserve) gold/silver money system..I believe this is a myth as 'the banksters' have been working their 'fractional reserve' fraud for centuries now."

While the latter is most certainly true -- the banksters have indeed been running their fraud for centuries -- it is also true that, as few as 100 years ago, we still had plenty of circulating gold and silver coin, and NO "electronic dollars" at all. The point being that, if you had coins that were of known purity and weren't shaved, you had something objective that could be used with reasonable reliability to gauge and store your purchasing power. Today, we deal primarily in paper money and electronic blips, which themselves have only the "value" declared for them by the governments that authorize them -- and this value (in terms of purchasing power, at least) tends to go down over time as the governments authorize many more units to be circulated than there is true value in the economy. "Coins" are worthless tokens.

As long as you were dealing with banknotes and borrowed capital, Clark, I think you were right: fractional reserve has been eating away at the people's purchasing power for a long time. But if you restricted yourself to dealing in "hard" currency or instruments that amounted to the same thing (silver certificate dollars, for instance, or warehouse receipts), you would have as close as possible to a "100% reserve" system. Individuals could do that 100 years ago with "the government's money." Now, they have to do it with bullion or private currency systems. Thanks for nothing, Uncle Sam.

Phat; I read the link of what the Arizona LP is considering. My thoughts are that more work is needed to create substance not sound bites.

For instance;
1). "WHEREAS American foreign policy should seek an America at peace with the world, and conduct foreign policy based on the enlightened
principles of non-intervention as espoused by George Washington"
What do they mean by "enlightened principles of non-intervention"?

2). " WHEREAS the United States government should return to its historical
libertarian tradition of avoiding entangling alliances, foreign
quarrels and imperialist adventures, while recognizing the natural
right to unrestricted trade and travel"

Isn't this paragraph the same as the other except for the blurp of "natural
right to unrestricted trade and travel"?

3). How do we maintain peace with the world?

4). ..."while recognizing the natural
right to unrestricted trade and travel". That would be your point-of-view, what if a country restricts our trade and travel aboard? What if a country does not believe in your "natural right" idea?

5). " WHEREAS the United States has intervened in the affairs of Iraq and Afghanistan, nations that neither directly attacked nor threatened America, and our invasion of their sovereign territories is an attempt to impose our values on people in other lands;"

Afghanistan was the venue of where the the planning took place to attack the USA. This country was held captive by a ruling party of religous fanatics,Taliban, who ruled the country since '96 by force. The Taliban murdered, raped, closed schools,etc, and supported and gave refuge to bin laden. YES! Afghanistan did attack and threaten the USA. For a simple example, I say that if the USA were to support a well trained and armed force (Blackwater Inc.) and send them over seas,( oh, I don't know, lets say Iraq), and let this armed force kill non-combatants, and not regulate by law this armed force, then the USA gov should be held accountable. The accountability should be determined by the court, however, in dealing with the Taliban, they do not care about any fair court adjudication. So what do you do?

6). Support Our Troops !!!
Always support our military. Don't play the liberal card and put faces on the subject,eg, as one person wrote " pauliecannoli". The miliary was sent in, they just didn't decide to go.

Reading the Resolution and the posts that were sent in, I wonder if the DNC is involved here.
There is to much b.s., no commitment, no substance, very little truth.

Stop the sound-bite jargon and deal with real-world strategy, domestic and forgein.

Just my thoughts....

Phat Shifty, I read the resolution and think it is pretty well-formulated, but I don't see what point it serves. The administration knows full well public opinion, which this mirrors, and simply doesn't care.

Congress FINALLY grew a backbone and stood up to King George recently - unfortunately it was to overturn a veto that would have saved us money. Damn Congress!

It seems our only course of action is to HOPE Bush doesn't pull any more stupid acts in the next year - and hope he doesn't declare a national emergency and cancel the elections.

There's always hope, right?

LP is basically Bush Lite or Republican Lite. Y'all
were for Clinton being impeached back in '96, but no call for Bush's impeachment.

Sounds like us Real Libertarians are gonna hang out with and do Lysander Spooner ideas, Ayn Rand ideas, while the LP just acts like Angry Elephants.

Have a nice Bush Lite 2007!

My guess is SouthernGrits won't be back to clarify his "Bush Lite" comment.